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- Subject: Creating a new "alt" group -- guidelines
- Newsgroups: alt.config,news.groups,alt.answers,news.answers
- From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher Samuel)
- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 08:16:26 GMT
-
- Archive-name: alt-config-guide
- Version: 1.6
- Last-modified: Mon May 17 09:29:44 GMT 1993
- Original-poster: markw@gvlf8.gvl.unisys.com (Mark H. Weber)
-
-
- [This posting supercedes <alt-config_749465078@aber.ac.uk>]
-
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-
- /*
- * If you want information on mainstream group creation see the
- * postings "How to Create a New Newsgroup" posted to news.answers,
- * news.admin and news.groups. They are archived as:
- *
- * rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/creating-newsgroups/*
- */
-
- Guidelines for the creation of an "alt" group.
- ==============================================
-
- There are no rules or guidelines for creation of "alt" groups,
- However there does appear to be an established procedure which
- follows.
-
-
- 1) Choose the name for the group you are going to propose. When
- choosing a name for a group please note the only commandment:
-
- "Thou shalt not choose a group name which may cause network harm
- or harm to a local machine."
-
- Examples:
-
- a) alt.verylonggroupnamethathasadirectorylongerthanmostmachines\
- supportsotherehaha.very.funny
-
- b) alt.[insert300charactershere].very.long.group.name.that.is.\
- too.big.for.newsrc
-
- c) alt.*.this.name.has.bad.characters.in.it
-
- d) alt..double.dot.group.name
-
- If you are proposing a serious group, which may one day in the
- future migrate to a mainstream hierarchy, then you can name it
- with the same name that it may end up with there. For instance
- "sci.astro.fits" started life as "alt.sci.astro.fits".
-
- An extra point, please don't use the '.' as a word seperator;
- although it causes no real problem it won't win you many friends
- when you take the name to alt.config.
-
-
- 2) Propose a new alt group in alt.config. The proposal
- should include a charter or purpose for the new group, and some
- demonstration of the need for the group. It is best to make it
- clear in your subject line that you are proposing a new group.
- Be prepared to explain why an existing group cannot be used for
- this purpose, and why the group should be in "alt" rather than
- in one of the mainstream hierarchies (like "rec", "sci", etc.).
- Avoiding the complexity of the mainstream group creation
- procedure is not a very good reason, groups should not be
- created in "alt" just because it's easier. Many sites do not
- get any alt groups, so if you are proposing a serious group, it
- is worth the effort to try to get it into a mainstream hierarchy.
-
- 3) See what the alt.net.opinion of the new group is. Wait a
- few days for replies to trickle in from the far corners of the
- net. If the consensus (however you determine that) is that the
- group should be created, then proceed to step 4.
-
- /*
- * These first two steps are often ignored, which usually leads to
- * unpleasantness in step 4 below
- */
-
- 4) Post a "newgroup" control message. If you don't know how to do
- this, check with your news administrator. If you ARE your news
- administrator, and you can't figure it out from the
- documentation you have (or don't have any documentation) send me
- mail and I will help you. NOTE that many sites do NOT
- automatically honor "newgroup" and "rmgroup" control messages,
- the news software at these sites will send mail to the news
- administrator, who will evaluate your request and decide whether
- or not to create the group. It may take a couple of days for
- the control message to propagate and be acted upon, so don't
- expect instant availability of the new group, particularly if
- you post the control message on a Friday night.
-
- /*
- * It is good manners to put a description of the new newsgroup
- * into the newgroup message, along with a one-line description
- * suitable for inclusion into the newsgroups file. INN at least
- * will automatically add the newsgroups description if a line of
- * the form used by David 'tale' Lawrence is used, ie:
- *
- * A line with "For your newsgroups file:" followed by the entry.
- */
-
- 5) Let the individual site news administrators decide whether to
- honor your "newgroup" message. Most admins prefer that the
- message come from a verifiable account, messages which are
- obviously forged, or have not been discussed in alt.config and
- contain no explanation will probably not be honored by many
- sites. Persons opposed to the group, or admins who feel that
- the newgroup message was a forgery may send out "rmgroup"
- messages to try to sabotage the group. It may take several
- iterations of this process to firmly establish the new group.
- It has been humorously suggested that only alt groups which get
- 100 more "newgroup" than "rmgroup" messages should be
- established. However, these "rmgroup wars" are annoying to news
- administrators, and reduce the overall acceptance (and
- distribution) of the "alt" hierarchy. This is the reason that
- steps 1 and 2 above are important.
-
- /* Here ends the lesson.
- *
- * This may sound like a lot of rigamarole, and it is. The purpose
- * is to discourage creation of alt groups that might be better off
- * as mainstream groups, or that might be better off left uncreated.
- *
- * Don't take this all too seriously, though. The "alt" net is the
- * last remaining refuge away from the control freaks, namespace
- * purists and net.cops (like myself) that maintain and enforce the
- * mainstream newsgroup guidelines.
- *
- * There is still some room for spontaneity out here on the "alt"
- * frontier. Successful groups have been created without following
- * these suggestions. Almost any non-forged, serious newgroup
- * message will at least be considered by most news admins. Some
- * groups have been created just on a whim. The concept behind the
- * group better be good (or a least entertaining), though!
- */
- --
- Christopher Samuel, Computer Unit, U.W Aberystwyth, Aberystwyth, WALES
- E-mail: ccs@aber.ac.uk PGP 2.3 public key available on request
- "Some say the gods are a myth, - The Waterboys
- but guess who I've been dancing with." "The Return of Pan"
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